 |
DAEWOORIFLEPARTS.COM A FORUM FOR FANS OF THE DAEWOO RIFLE
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
a77ssii
Joined: 30 Jul 2010 Posts: 4
|
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:39 am Post subject: Possible Woo convert, questions. |
|
|
While I understand the basic operating system because I have a gas operated AR and have owned an SKS I need reliability and accuracy questions answered.
My AR is about 3MOA with a 1:7 barrel. I want something with a 1:12 twist because I want to share ammo with my bolt gun which I reload 30gr BTBT's and 35gr Varmint Grenades for. I also want at least 1.5MOA.
My handloads are a bit above max at 4050fps which also ups the pressure. Can the Woo handle it or am I dancing with the devil?
It's my understanding that the one I want is the DR200, is the clubfoot stock an available mod? I don't want anything folding or 6 position.
What is the reliability of this platform? I'm just a bit concerned because I know some parts are a bit hard to find.
And I'm not the "tacticool" type person so there wouldn't be any other mods done to it like rails, etc.
Sorry about all the questions but when I got my AR15A2 I got hit with the "black gun, herd mentality" and now regret it. Had I done this before the AR I would never have gotten it. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
K3 Site Admin
Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 396
|
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
Keep in mind that all these guns are over 16 years old.
None of the Woos are really set up for Varmint hunting or use of overpressure rounds.
D. _________________ The Great and Powerful 'Woo
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
a77ssii
Joined: 30 Jul 2010 Posts: 4
|
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:08 am Post subject: |
|
|
| I wasn't sure about the pressure issue, but IMO ANY semi auto isn't set up for varmint hunting. That's what I have the bolt gun for but I demand a certain amount of reliability and accuracy from every gun I own and so far the AR15 has fallen well short of those demands which is why I'm here. It's a 3MOA, filthy, dirty, unreliable piece of plastic. I spend about as much time screwing with it at the range as I do shooting it. All I've heard about the Daewoo has been good so I was hoping for confirmations of a reliable, accurate (I don't think 1.5MOA is too much to ask) somewhat clean shooting rifle so any input either supporting or contrary to those statements would be much appreciated. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
darkest2000
Joined: 15 Jan 2010 Posts: 8
|
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:37 am Post subject: |
|
|
The AR15 has about the same amount of plastic as the woo. And in theory the long stroke piston of the K2 will actually make it inferior to the AR15 accuracy wise.
It's unfortunate that you had such a bad experience with your AR15 but that's not representative of all ARs. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Ross
Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 49 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
|
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
I get similar accuracy with a Daewoo to a high-quality AR. They aren't magical sticks. They are simply high quality rifles designed for what they were meant for. I had a Colt AR-15A2 that turned in under 1.5MOA easily. I've shot other AR's that would be lucky to turn in 4MOA. It just depends upon what you have. Because you don't have the huge variety of good and bad parts, different manufacturers, etc. with the Daewoo that you do with the AR, the Daewoo seems to do well in accuracy. But in reality it's no better than a top end AR. Now a top-end AR is no slouch. I've seen them outshoot Rem700 sporters. Alot of it is the shooter/rifle/ammo combination.
Higher pressures wear out a gun faster. It's simple as that. The Daewoo was designed around a military cartridge to do military stuff. There's differences between a bolt-gun and a semi. You may want to rethink just why you need a semi if you're going to feed it high-pressure rounds made specifically for a bolt-gun and want bolt-gun accuracy out of it. It's kinda like buying a car and trying to tie a ton of plywood to the roof. If you expect it to be a truck, then use a truck. If you're expecting it to be a bolt-gun, use a bolt-gun.
You can adjust the gas on the Daewoo, but if you are a handloader, then you should be the first one to realize that a handload worked up for one rifle probably isn't going behave the same in another rifle. Common sense, and common reloading practice would indicate that because you're shooting high pressure loads in a different rifle, you should reduce the load and work it up from there for that rifle. Two different makes gun, two different chambers, two different bores, two different riflings, two different linings, two different amount of free-bore, you get all that and more with two different rifles, even if they were simply two different bolt guns. A bolt gun and a semi have huge differences and the standard procedure for anything like what you suggest (sharing handloads) means you need to work up the loads separately for each gun until you find one that's right for both. Basic handloading.
The DR-200 is 1:12. The preban K2/Max-II/AR-100 are 1:7ish.
Any stock you can fit on an AR will fit on a DR-200. There's an adapter that goes right on the back. You can also have a true folder, but that's probably not needed by you, though you can delete the folding part and have it fixed.
I've never had any reliability problems. I've shot mine in classes and put alot of rounds out of them. To be honest, most modern guns are pretty tough. The parts problem is what it is. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Jo6pak
Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Posts: 32 Location: Western WI
|
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:58 am Post subject: |
|
|
| a77ssii wrote: | | (I don't think 1.5MOA is too much to ask) |
IMHO the accuracy of the AR-15 platform is greatly exaggerated
1.5MOA is on the very limit of what any tactical semi-auto rifle will provide. I've known several friends who spent bigtime $$ on free floated, heavy/fluted barreled 20" AR platforms with all high quality parts to gain 1 to1.5. But these are effectivley finely-tuned range pieces, shooting top quality fodder.
I've never seen a semi-auto tactical rifle consistently deliver better than 2MOA.
Benchrested, my DR200 will shoot 2-4 inch groups at 100 yards, firing 55gr. FMJ hrough a 1:12 barrel.
A piston gun will run cooler at the bolt assembly, but all that heat and crud is held in the gas-block and piston. A piston gun is easier to maintain and clean than a direct impingement system. If you've ever seen a troubleshooting chart for an AR it will boggle your mind.  _________________ Those who beat their swords into plowshares, will surely plow for those who do not. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
|